Quick note: This Off the Cuff is being re-released to the public based on a number of requests to make this available for sharing with folks outside of the tribe.
Folks you are in for a real treat. Every so often an interview just hits on all cylinders and this was one of them.
Peter Boghossian, co-author of How To Have Impossible Conversations, and a former professor at Portland State University returns to our show to help us understand the mindset of those pushing the Diversity, Equity and Inclusion (DIE) agenda.
To help me, and hopefully you, Peter agreed to “steelman” the argument, which means to address the strongest form of the other person’s (or side’s) position or argument.
The first thing I learned is that I did not have the slightest clue what was meant by “equity” as it is being used by some today. I’m still not sure I get it, which is a wake-up call.
The second thing I learned from Peter is that there’s a huge movement out there that’s busy redefining words and stripping them of their former meaning, which is where the fight between the sides will need to be fought. When words lose their meaning, so does our ability to communicate and work together.
Let’s dive in…